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The book, Cancer Salves: A Botanical Approach to Treatment has over 100 recipes and formulas for making one's own salves and internal tonics. However, sourcing the right ingredients and obtaining the equipment for making products can often entail more bother than contemplated. Professional herbalists will find all the help they want in the book, but patients might be better off buying a ready-made product.

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Helen
Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 10:25 pm:   

Hi Ingrid,

Hope you are well, my name is Helen. I am 28 years old, and have advanced breast cancer, following many years of bad health, with an ME type syndrome (I think you call it something different on your side of the pond?)

I read your book a while ago, and ordered your audio tape plus products from R & B Apothecary. However, when everything arrived, and I listened to the tape—and also had a chance to look at your Internet site— I refrained from using the salves, as it seems that the bloodroot is not your preferred method. You write about having developed a "quieter" treatment, that requires no "heroics;" but you do not make it clear which method you are referring to.

I assume it is the zinc chloride/goldenseal plus calendula salve? This being the case, there are no instructions in your book for the base salve that the zinc chloride/goldenseal is added to. You list on the net white willow bark, turmeric, galangal, etc. Can you please furnish me with the instructions on how to make this base salve.

I am reluctant to buy any base ointment from a herbal supplier, as they all seem to use vitamin C in their preparations, which I am forbidden to use, as I am administering Gaston Naessens 714X. I have the zinc chloride and herbs here and am ready; I just need a bit of guidance to begin.

Is there anyone that you know of in the UK familiar with using these salves? If not, is there someone with whom I can correspond over there while I am undertaking this treatment? An urgent response would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for taking the time to read this e-mail.


Helen
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Ingrid
Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2001 - 10:26 pm:   

Dear Helen,

The newest edition of the book does have instructions for making and using the less aggressive ointment. There is no trick to making it, but it keeps better if cured a little bit. I deliberately did not post the directions for making the salve on the Net because I think it is important for people to read the book before undertaking this treatment.

I will send you the instructions privately since you have a somewhat earlier edition of the book. Good luck!
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Renee
Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2002 - 05:34 pm:   

Hello Ingrid,
In my twenties, after my pregnancy, I was offered a radio active cocktail for an overactive thyroid. My whole body said no. I realized that I have an eversion to exposing myself to radio active materials and chemicals.

Now I'm 50 and everyone is upset because I don't want to have by breasts xrayed every year. I'm seen as a non-compliant patient by my doctor. How do people continue a relationship with the person, be it doctor or Nurse Practitioner that gives them a pelvic exam or in my case I also have asthma and need meds.

I've read and use suggestions from the Menopausal Years and Breast Health by Susan Weed, and the New Holistic Herbal by David Hoffman.
Two years ago I bought your book on Cancer Salves. I think and feel that I need to educate myself about the alternatives in case I develop something as time goes by.

I imagine that you are so surrounded by a life that is full of these alternatives and have a doctor that supports your way of doing things. I just dread the looks and comments that demonstrate to me that the nurses and doctor that I see think I'm foolish or careless.

Have you ever been in this situation? And what do you do? Renee
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Ingrid
Posted on Thursday, February 14, 2002 - 03:46 pm:   

Renee,

These are somewhat personal questions. I haven't seen a doctor in almost 32 years. I suppose I could be regarded as foolish or naive or perhaps even utterly stupid, but by choosing to live as I do, I also choose to be responsible for my own health. I cannot blame someone for failing to detect a malignancy before if became life-threatening and I also can't blame them for complications stemming either from my own recklessness or their recklessness. In short, this is my body and it's my job to take care of it.

However, for someone to resist conventional medicine on the basis of fear or aversion is not realistic if you are less responsible or inadequately informed.

I'm healthier now than earlier in my life. I was a victim many times over of conditions caused by excessive zeal in the use of allopathic modalities. It took many years to recover my vitality and some damage seems almost permanent though I resist that notion.

This said, there are today thousands of very sincere medical doctors who are themselves searching for sensible, less invasive ways to help patients. Many doctors are natural healers whose reliance on instinct has been compromised by science and unfortunately a lot of pseudo-science as well. Many doctors care deeply about whether or not their patients get well, but they learned the system of medicine that is credentialed and have seldom spent an equal amount of time studying other modalities so it's easy when there is an infection to reach for antibiotics instead of herbs.

The other problem, of course, is that many products are not formulated well enough to perform as necessary. It's not a level playing field out there. This said, in the case of mammograms, there is enough controversy that you can hold your own easily in refusing annual exposure to radioactive diagnostic procedures.

Thermography is a much safer diagnostic method and clammoring for it is not unreasonable. I believe I posted an article about it on this site?

http://www.cancersalves.com/articles/terrain.html
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sarah bortt
Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2002 - 03:45 am:   

Another response to Renee:

Renee, I would like to encourage you to do self breast exam. This is an incredibly empowering tool that can be very effective in detecting changes. "Change" is the important word here. The idea is that you become very familiar with the normal lumpiness of your own breast tissue (after all we all have some kind of lumpy breast tissue) and that when you detect a change that you are not sure of then you seek out a skilled healthcare practitioner's opinion.

Tips on Self Breast Exam:

1. Do it after your period ends or if you are no longer having periods, pick a date that you can do this every month.

2. Use the pads of your fingers, make a circular motion (~the size of a fifty cent piece), and use three diffferent levels of pressure (light or skin level, medium or tissue level, and deep or chest wall level). Drag your fingers along in between areas that you are examining at about the medium pressure--don't lift your fingers off the tissue, as you can miss tissue when you return your fingers.

3. Examine all of your breast tissue. These are your borders: your collarbone, your sternum (imagine a straight line down the middle of your chest), about one inch underneath the rounded part of your breast or your bra line, and your mid axillary line (imagine a line down the side of your body underneath your armpit). With these boundaries, you should be examing all of your breast tissue. Notice also, that you will be examing a fair amount of your armpit area. That is fine. In fact, you can examine as much off that area as you wish (beyond the borders above) because you have alot of lymph nodes or glands there that drain your breast tissue (sometimes folks notice these nodes because they can swell with illnesses).

4. Any pattern you want to use will work. I would reccommend that you settle on a pattern so you become proficient and are used to feeling lumpy areas in the same order. Suggestions: a vertical grid pattern starting at your sternum and working your way in vertical strips (kind of like mowing a lawn) ending at the line under you armpit (mid axillary line); or a circular pattern (it might actually be a little more box like at the beginning in order to examine all of the tissue).

5. Don't forget your nipple. Go right over it and at the end of your pattern check underneath it and make sure that you can feel the little concavity or indentation (kind of like the area underneath you nose-very subtle). Make sure this are is free from any masses.

6. Most normal lumpy breast is pretty mobile and not fixed, meaning that it moves around and doesn't feel like it is sewn to anything. If you find something that you are unsure of set up an appointment with your healthcare practitioner AND check it again in two weeks. Is it smaller? Is it bigger? Is it gone? Jot down info about it on a calender. If it gets smaller, then it is probably a normal lump. If it gets bigger or stays the same, check again in two more weeks, is it still the same or diffferent? Get anything that you are unsure of checked out by someone who is used to checking breast lumps.

Hopefully, this will be of help to you. It is not a bad idea to get a baseline mammogram when nothing is wrong with you. In fact, it can make it easier in the future if there is a suspicious lump. You also have the options of Thermography and Ultrasound. Most forms of imaging have limitations. Read about them and make an informed decision. We reccommend that women make a plan to follow their breast health, even if they do not choose to get mammograms or choose to get them less frequently than yearly.

I hope this is helpful. Just so you know w bit about me--I'm a women's health educator and I also teach med students how to do gynecological exams. I have a long history of women's health education and activism.

take care,
sarah

P.S. remember, get your yearly gyne exams--speculum exam, bimanual exam, pap smear & breast exam. :-)
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Michelle
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:29 pm:   

Could it actually take up to a year to get all the cancer out of a breast? Im going on 10 1/2 months of the black salve and STILL am pulling out little round things of infection/cancer? Im hoping by now the cancer is gone and now i am dealing with a normal infection like mastitis? I had a baby thru breast cancer (if you can believe that) and still am getting reactions when the salve is applied. I binded my breast when the baby was born thinking this would only help but am wondering now if I created a mastitis. I wont go to a medical doctor ever again, for they would of killed me and the baby, but I need to know if the salve could be pulling other infection and not just cancer? Please answer asap! Thank You
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Ingrid
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 11:51 pm:   

Yes, the salve is hugely reactive with infectious material, but you are setting a record for treatment time. You might want to support the external treatment with diet and herbs (internal tonics.)

Best wishes,
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Danny
Posted on Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 07:41 am:   

I know you like to use oils as a base for the salves. How about coconut oil? Thank you.
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Ingrid
Posted on Tuesday, September 10, 2002 - 12:12 am:   

Danny,

I haven't tried it. It's an interesting idea. I had been using apricot kernel oil because of the possibility of traces of nitrilosides and castor oil when I really didn't want the body to retain any of the oil.

In my researches, I found that people used almost any kind of animal fat, but being a vegetarian, I find this challenging, but coconut oil has a lot of appeal.
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Helene
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 07:08 pm:   

Hi ingrid! Do you know what the mineral salts are in c herb? I know it isn't zinc cloride My intuative guess would be epsom salts and the fiber psillium husk! Helene
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Ingrid
Posted on Wednesday, February 12, 2003 - 10:50 pm:   

Helene,

I haven't a clue, but from what people have related to me, I am not sure you intuition is right.
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Helene
Posted on Thursday, February 13, 2003 - 01:03 pm:   

I made the violet oil from your book and brought my friends deeply embedded breast tumor the surface of the skin and opened like a sea anenome. We are black salving it now. This oil was painless she said but didnt seem to kill the tumor. BUT! After one week of using the salve the tumor is two thirds dead and some pain started three days ago. I am now putting the milder salve ( golden seal, white willow and tumeric) around where the skin is and the black salve on the mass. In your book I says to add a little black salve to the golden seal paste but I dont want to add further pain. Will it still encourage the tumor to release as is? She is the woman I told you about with the three bread loaf size tumors in her stomach. Which have now shrunk to the size of bolillo rolls.
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Ingrid
Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 02:10 am:   

Helene,

What an extraordinary account. What is a bolillo roll? I thought that having lived in New Mexico for 21 years, I would know, but obviously not.

You might be the first to try what you are doing. It sounds like an interesting approach. I think the goal now is to wait for the crack to form around the edge to see if the tumor is lifting out. You've done this before so you know what you should expect. Pain is not necessarily related to the bloodroot. It is more dependent on the stage of the treatment and sensitivity at different times and is hugely unpredictable. How is she feeling right now?
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helene
Posted on Sunday, February 16, 2003 - 02:51 pm:   

Ingrid, She is feeling good? And is still working two days a week as a vidio artist/teacher. I have her on a internal tonic, yarrow and essiac tea. And have her off all gluten and sugars and vegetable juicing. She is on over the counter pain management. The tumor is oozing white around the edge now more and more every day with no strong oder thanks to her diet. My hope is that when it expells the will be no deep hole in the skin since we pulled the tumor to the surface. She is eating well and in good spirits. The tumor is very heavy about a quarter pound I'm guessing. I think the pain is from the toumors weight and tention on the skin. She's taking pictures of this whole process and I can send you copies. Were saving the tumor in a mason jar when it falls out. I think I will name it after my father in law "ED" . Bandaging this puppy was no picnic!! we changed methods 10 times but I beleive we are reaching the end soon.I'll keep you informed. By the way a bolillo is the size of a french roll....Helene
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Ingrid
Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 10:26 pm:   

Helene,

Keep us informed . . . it sounds very promising here.

Don't know what to think or say about Ed. This does not quite sound like an honor!
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Keith Small
Posted on Saturday, May 10, 2003 - 02:11 pm:   

Dear Ingrid,
I am ordering your book on salves after visiting your website. I have a very serious Squamous Cell carcinoma that started off on my scalp the size of a pea and now is the size of a small teacup with an inch high tumour rim and has eaten through my skull (thanks to medical intervention).

Is it too late to try a salve?.I have used Iscador injections, Dr Schulze and been to Mexico for treatment...I feel I am pushing my luck and dont have much time to handle this.

Your website has been an inspiritaion to me and one of hope. I am 55 years old and from South Africa..in the US to handle this problem

Yours sincerely,
Keith Small
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Ingrid
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 03:10 pm:   

Oh, gosh!

Double gosh actually because the response I wrote just vanished.

There was a practitioner who described using a bloodroot paste on his forehead. He burned a huge hole through the skull and said vermints were crawling out. I grilled him and he maintained the creatures looked like slugs. He ended up in ER because of pain and golfed two under par the following day. He went on to make a full recovery and the case was corroborated by the person who provided the paste.

He had tried conventional medicine for 12 years and various alternatives for two before turning to the salve. So, there is always hope, but one never knows what will work for whom.

Hoxsey's most famous "stunt" was a public demonstration of the removal of a tumor. It was an authentic case but done with media coverage and flamboyance. The patient went on to live a normal life.

Personally, I always want to know what is causing the cancer: sunburn? parasites? something else. What I mean is that while one person may actually have had something walking around in his brain, this may be very rare or much more common than we think. Who knows?

I do know that the odds of having something diagnosed as a parasitic infection are very low, but this doesn't mean the problem is rare. Think of all the malaria and schistosomiasis in Africa. Regardless, what I can say is that personally I would never rely exclusively on the external treatments.

I wish you success.
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Keith Small
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2003 - 12:23 pm:   

Dear Ingrid,
That is the most sane advice I have ever had...yes I totally believe in parasites,bacteria and viruses related to Cancer....have been on the Rife Machine for a few weeks, done Hulda Clarke,etc. I eagerly await your book....thank you so much for taking the time to answer me personally. I may need to email you again, but will keep it short and to the point....I realise you are a busy person...to have a communication line to a rational person is such a win and takes away half the anguish and concern.

Thank you so much,
Best regards,

Keith Small.
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Ingrid
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 01:31 am:   

Thanks, Keith,

What I omitted saying is that Hoxsey lifted the top off a man's head. He did this outdoors before an audience of thousands of people, some of whom fainted, but the man lived.

There are no doubt some very safe things one could do to ease pressure and define the extent of the problem. I often suggest that people make a poultice of goldenseal or goldenseal and turmeric and just plaster it on. If one puts this on the head, one can simply wear a shower cap during the night and try not to toss and turn too much. This isn't precisely what one would call a treatment.

It's just an effort to cleanse the area of easy to remove "stuff" that might be contributing to the impression that the "issue" is huge. For instance, when a woman does this on her breast, swelling is reduced so that the edge of the tumor is defined, i.e. it is distinct from the inflammation. Often the appearance changes so dramatically that one realizes the tumor is a third of the size it was thought to be. If you repeat this again and again, there is very little change on the subsequent days, but it is worth doing once just to see if the tumor is "huge" or much smaller than thought.

Some people use more absorbent poultices that wick morbid matter into sponge-like herbal pancakes. The area usually feels cleaner and more manageable. It doesn't obviate the need for additional treatment; it just makes everything a little more tidy.

Good luck.
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Keith Small
Posted on Thursday, May 15, 2003 - 10:55 am:   

Reply to your message of May 14th,
Yes, that is a good idea to pack the hole/tumour with goldeseal and tumeric to evaluate the extent of tumour-will do that as soon as my goldenseal arrives.
I wrote to you after reading your fantastic book...I just loved it and the last chapter made me weep..it was so beautiful that I read it constantly now...and I only got the book yesterday.....it really hit a chord in me...and the little bells are ringing..
Best regards,
Keith
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Ingrid
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 02:28 am:   

Thank you so very much for these kinds comments. If you can, will you get someone to take a picture and send it to me privately?

Blessings!
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Keith Small
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 01:52 pm:   

Dear Ingrid,
PLease may I have an email address to send the photos to you?
Thanks so much,
Keith Small.
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Ingrid
Posted on Friday, May 16, 2003 - 04:49 pm:   

ingrid@cancersalves.com
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Joanne
Posted on Thursday, September 11, 2003 - 11:46 pm:   

I am interested to know where to get zinc chloride to make the salve. I have used black salve in the past and want to make some more. I have bloodroot powder but no zinc chloride. Thanks so much. Joanne
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Debby
Posted on Friday, September 12, 2003 - 03:30 pm:   

Depending on where you live, try your local drug store.

Have an Awesome Day
Debby
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Normajean
Posted on Friday, March 05, 2004 - 05:45 pm:   

I, too, am trying to find the zinc chloride to make the black salve. I have tried all the local drug stores and the pharmisist have no idea. This being Montana, I don't doubt them. However I have found a website that sells zinc chloride but I have no idea which formula is appropriate. The website is www.sciencelab.com. Help?
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Ingrid
Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 01:33 pm:   

In theory, there is a commercial grade and a medicinal grade of zinc chloride. This is a chemical that is sold in powder form. It looks a bit like salt, dissolves easily in water, but it is extremely caustic. It is made by pouring hydrochloric acid on zinc.

In some states, it is only sold by prescription, usually to dentists who on occasion use it as a caustic though this is becoming quite rare. When it is shipped, it has to be shipped as a hazardous material because if it gets wet, it could make holes in metal.

In a few states, it is sold without prescription. It is, of course, available as a chemical through laboratories supplying scientific and commercial uses.

You refer to a formula. There are many people selling formulas that have already been put together. I prefer this to do it yourself propositions in which you really have no idea what sort of product you want to have at the end of the process.

Good luck.

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